![]() ![]() Those folks are simply at a different level of spiritual development. ![]() I borrowed something from the back cover of one of an Evangelical book… that Jesus is uncompromising and he challenges us. ![]() Joe, don't feel any shame about borrowing from Dr. I obviously know better now but I found it unfair. I'm uncircumcised and I say that here because I read something about that in the Pentateuch as a teen… men who follow God are circumcised… and it caused a bit of a faith crisis in me. Why? The thing that angered his father the most was that Carroll went fishing on a Sunday. He was raised in a staunchly religious family but he never carried on with it as an adult. ![]() I read an interview with the late Carroll Shelby. Sometimes I wonder if so many Christians want to believe that the entire bible, King James style, fell from the sky along with the 10 commandments. There are plenty of contradictions inside of it… never mind that Jesus' life and teaching cancelled out so many things in the old testament. The Bible is an enormously important book, but it is a compilation that was put together (or edited, even) by humans. I have long called their brand of preaching, "Grace but…."Grace be unto you UNLESS you're a homosexual.Grace be unto you UNLESS you've had an abortion.Grace be unto you UNLESS you've been divorced.Grace be unto you UNLESS you don't believe in and interpret the Bible as I do.The list goes on and on.It has always been a mystery to me why those who claim every word of the Bible is the word of God and therefore, the truth always seem to put more emphasis on the words they can turn into hateful and judgmental condemnations than the words that speak of the unconditional love of God and of grace unmerited and undeserved, yet freely given.Could it be that Baptists and others like them are laying their own hates and biases on the shoulders of God? I think so.I like the way you put it, "Christians don't get to decide whom God loves."Jack Scott They just attach strings to it that God never attached himself. The propensity of which you speak, preaching one thing and then going out of your way to practice another is exactly why I knew by the time I was 10 years old I would not be a Baptist as an adult.Baptists do preach about God's love. I was doing some research about this passage and God’s everlasting love as a way to expound on these verses and I came up with two things, on is a song that I dearly love to sing in church: Last week, Jack Scott, mentioned in his comment Romans 8:31-39, which in some Bibles is titled “God’s Everlasting Love” says:ģ1 What shall we then say to these things? If God be for us, who can be against us?ģ2 He that spared not his own Son, but delivered him up for us all, how shall he not with him also freely give us all things?ģ3 Who shall lay any thing to the charge of God’s elect? It is God that justifieth.ģ4 Who is he that condemneth? It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us.ģ5 Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? shall tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword?ģ6 As it is written, For thy sake we are killed all the day long we are accounted as sheep for the slaughter.ģ7 Nay, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him that loved us.ģ8 For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come,ģ9 Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord. ![]()
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